200th mobile website

[Mobile]

Just finished making my 200th mobile website.

For offline marketing these things are hot at the moment.

Our customer range is very wide from mechanics to promotion companies to solicitors to sports clubs.

Once you have a mobile website customer you can then go and get their main website and revamp for them.

Quentin

[zackpow]

Care to share more? I would love to know your system and pricing. 200 mobile sites! WOW! At $100 per site per month that's $20k per month.

Zack

[Sebulba]

Just finished making my 200th mobile website.

For offline marketing these things are hot at the moment.

Our customer range is very wide from mechanics to promotion companies to solicitors to sports clubs.

Once you have a mobile website customer you can then go and get their main website and revamp for them.

Quentin

Very nice Quenton.

Can I ask, what is your main method of getting the business?

Telemarketing, Walk-in...?

Thanks

Seb

[scotth]

I like to chime in here...Quentin is a master mobile website seller...I started selling mobile websites to my local market after learning how to design them first from Quentins script for shrink to fit sites...I built a couple of mock ups took a few hours now I can do them in 30min-1hr...they sell like hot cakes...I market a couple of different ways..but my most successful is cold calling...I dont cold call so much any more b/c of all the referrers I am getting dont need to anymore...but for me to get it going and get cash in my hand asap cold calling did the trick for me...

Here is what I did I like to call it Getting 10 Minute Meetings & Make a Killing Selling Mobile Websites Hey a WSO LOL!

This is to get you going fast but after you get a few clients you will start getting referrals and will not have to call anymore unless you want to ;o)

1. I call on Flash-sale sites like Groupon, Living Social, Bloomspot

2. I pitch them...

"my name is Scott Herrera and I'm a local business owner, I saw your website this morning, but noticed you don't have a mobile website. I would like to share with you how mobile marketing could enhance customer accessibility to your business and provide you with potentially hundreds of new and returning customers every month. I will create a home page of your current site for you that is mobile ready all I ask is for a 10 minute meeting to share the value of mobile marketing and how your site looks when it is mobile ready."

3. I say that verbatim Monday-Thursday...call 20 -40 business each day..I get 5-8 10 minute meetings a week.

4. Create a one page mock up..30 minutes.

5. Go to my meeting...first thing I show them is there normal site and how its frustrating to look around...then I show them a competitors mobile ready site...then I show their one page mock up. out of 8 10 minute meetings I get 2-4 close.

6. I ask for half up front the other half on delivery...My charges are $397 for a 5 page mobile site..I never charge a hosting fee...dont do it your ripping them off! Just put the mobile site into their site on their hosting with a m. subdomain.

7. Finished..pick up your other half of the money...ask for referrals!!!!!! So You Dont Have To Cold Call No More!

8. Up-sell time... what I am doing for up-sells is SMS digital List Building..its where the residual income is and lots of it! And the ROI that business owner gets from digtal list building..HE WILL WORSHIP YOU!

Take Action on the above and you will be making very nice income!

ScottH

[eazy76]

I like to chime in here...Quentin is a master mobile website seller...I started selling mobile websites to my local market after learning how to design them first from Quentins script for shrink to fit sites...I built a couple of mock ups took a few hours now I can do them in 30min-1hr...they sell like hot cakes...I market a couple of different ways..but my most successful is cold calling...I dont cold call so much any more b/c of all the referrers I am getting dont need to anymore...but for me to get it going and get cash in my hand asap cold calling did the trick for me...

Here is what I did I like to call it Getting 10 Minute Meetings & Make a Killing Selling Mobile Websites Hey a WSO LOL!

This is to get you going fast but after you get a few clients you will start getting referrals and will not have to call anymore unless you want to ;o)

1. I call on Flash-sale sites like Groupon, Living Social, Bloomspot

2. I pitch them...

"my name is Scott Herrera and I'm a local business owner, I saw your website this morning, but noticed you don't have a mobile website. I would like to share with you how mobile marketing could enhance customer accessibility to your business and provide you with potentially hundreds of new and returning customers every month. I will create a home page of your current site for you that is mobile ready all I ask is for a 10 minute meeting to share the value of mobile marketing and how your site looks when it is mobile ready."

3. I say that verbatim Monday-Thursday...call 20 -40 business each day..I get 5-8 10 minute meetings a week.

4. Create a one page mock up..30 minutes.

5. Go to my meeting...first thing I show them is there normal site and how its frustrating to look around...then I show them a competitors mobile ready site...then I show their one page mock up. out of 8 10 minute meetings I get 2-4 close.

6. I ask for half up front the other half on delivery...My charges are $397 for a 5 page mobile site..I never charge a hosting fee...dont do it your ripping them off! Just put the mobile site into their site on their hosting with a m. subdomain.

7. Finished..pick up your other half of the money...ask for referrals!!!!!! So You Dont Have To Cold Call No More!

8. Up-sell time... what I am doing for up-sells is SMS digital List Building..its where the residual income is and lots of it! And the ROI that business owner gets from digtal list building..HE WILL WORSHIP YOU!

Take Action on the above and you will be making very nice income!

ScottH

Thanks for sharing, I was wondering how easy it is to install a mobile script for a customer. Also what company do you use for your sms services. I found a company that provides unlimited texting, mobile website capable, app creator, from adking so i was wondering what you were using because adking created a package where it is easy to do all in one.

[scotth]

Thanks for sharing, I was wondering how easy it is to install a mobile script for a customer. Also what company do you use for your sms services. I found a company that provides unlimited texting, mobile website capable, app creator, from adking so i was wondering what you were using because adking created a package where it is easy to do all in one.

Hi,

I never designed a mobile website before until I bought the script...I followed the video tutorials and I built my first mobile site in about 3 hours...that was going back to the videos ect..now I can do a 5 page mobile site less than 60 min. The one page mock up takes like 15 mins. mobilewebsitetutorials.com

For SMS I and 2 other partners worked out a deal...we are with Avidmobile...were paying 0.029 cents per text messages and were selling them for 0.070 cents.

ScottH

[techlover]

Excellent work, wow 200 is a huge number, CONGRATS!

[mobilise]

I'd like to take issue with the assertion by ScottH to 'never charge a hosting fee, you're ripping them off'.

There are in fact, very good SEO reasons to put your clients mobile sites on a separate .mobi domain rather than an m. subdomain. For this you can host the site and charge a fee. Because every .mobi domain registered gets its own entry in the Internet Zone Files, which are the files that search engines use to start their crawls, your site will automatically perform better than if you use any other naming convention. Additionally, search engines detect when searches are being made from mobile devices and prioritize their results accordingly. Because .mobi sites are high-quality, made-for-mobile sites, they are automatically brought to the top of the mobile search results.

If you think that this is 'ripping people off' then may I respectfully suggest that you look at your own business model and decide whether in fact you are doing the best for your clients by NOT offering them a .mobi name with separate hosting.

Please don't take this post the wrong way. I respect the fact that you're out there doing it - that is to be applauded. I simple object to the pejorative tone of your remarks when there is a perfectly legitimate, if opposite point of view.

I wish you well.

[DarrenC]

I believe the original poster was referring to those services that allow you to quickly build a mobile site, but you are then forced to host with them on their hosting(even though you can register a .mobi). There are lots of those services out there now ranging in price from $7/month for a basic mobile site to $25 and beyond for 5 or more pages. Those in a way are a rip off for the end client - they make the job easier for you, but the client pays for it in the end. The client is then locked into that hosting unless they have another mobile site written for them.

Note, you can still register a .mobi and redirect it to your clients m.domainname.com site. So the original posters plan will work just fine if you add one more step to it, the .mobi domain name and a 301 redirect to the mobile site.

@mobilise, do you have any stats or information on whether a .mobi is picked up and indexed in the mobile serps any better than a m.domainname.com which is also recognized as a mobile site?

Regards
Darren

[mobilise]

Hi DarrenC,

I've re-read ScottH's post and I wish I shared your opinion that he was indeed referring to those services you mention. Without his input I can't know - but it doesn't sound like it to me!

Anyway, whatever he meant is down to him. It's a personal opinion which I don't necessarily share.

The thing is, I'm on the fence with this. In direct answer to your question - no I don't have any stats or other figures as to whether .mobi domains get picked up quicker than an m. subdomain. I'm not sure how you could test it easily - and I certainly haven't (yet!). My common sense tells me that they must do as they are TLD's and, as you know yourself, if you've ever tried to rank on Google for a subdomain they always take a lot longer.

I believe there is also a potential problem with 3rd party transcoders which will recognize a .mobi as a mobile site and therefore display it correctly, but may not pick up that a m. subdomain is actually mobile friendly. I have no personal experience of this, but I believe it may be a potential hazard to be aware of.

Currently I think the 'argument' between using m. subdomains and .mobi TLD's is very like Betamax and VHS (if you're old enough to remember) - or, more recently HDDVD and BlueRay. One usually comes out on top eventually - it's just a question of hoping you pick the right side :-).

I err on the side of .mobi myself for a few reasons.

1) Because it is a TLD and I prefer a clients chances of ranking quickly with that in their favour.
2) There are proportionately fewer .mobi sites and so they have a much better chance to rank high in mobile search.
3) Sales of .mobi domain names have gone over the 1 million mark now so it is gaining traction all the time in the marketplace
4) This reason has to do with my business model which I'm not sure I want to discuss on an open forum :-). Suffice it to say that I like to be able to charge a monthly fee for hosting and it is a preferable option to most of my clients. This option would not exist if I used a m. subdomain.
5) Is a simple practical consideration for a business. Given that most local businesses don't have trademarked names like Facebook or YouTube there is always the risk that somebody else will come along and register their .mobi name. If they are using a mobile website using an m. subdomain then this could well cause confusion, especially if a customer tries to navigate directly to his site. It's like now with .com's. If you don't know the exact address of a company you just type in .com and assume that's the right one. Then when you find out it's not you are confused and don't know where to try next (or you just give up and Google it). That is all well and good on a desktop computer but less likely to happen on a mobile. This is not likely to be a major problem now, but in years to come if .mobi names become as popular as .com's are now, and therefore as difficult to find names to register, then the likelihood of this happening increases. I always like to have one eye on the future.

I must say I liked your 301 redirect idea - I hadn't thought of that!

Anyway, those are just some thoughts. I'm sure they're no more valid than anyone else's on the subject. Just my 10 penneth.

[jvalentin1]

Well I understand the issue with having the sub domain. I have a mobile site under the subdomain of m.domain.com. I have a script on my domain that detects mobile devices and forward the browser to the subdomain. I have no problem with it but I never tried to optimize my mobile site. I do have a dot .mobi address but have not used it. Maybe I need to re-visit tryng to optimize the mobile site and have my .mobi domain active.

[iMarketingNinjas]

Awesome, I hate cold calling but it has its benefits

[jsfunstuff]

that's great success