$800+ A DAY...selling BUSINESS CARDS?

[Don Alm]

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THIS is for "SikeoSeller"!

[kf4qhk]

As always, excellent, my friend.

[caryduke]

WHO would ever imagine!...selling Business Cards could earn someone $800 and more...a DAY!

And....the "someone" I'm referring to is a "50 year old WOMAN"....WITHOUT an ounce of "Sales Experience"!

Yup....just "walking down a commercial street"....going into every door that opens....brings this lady a Minimum of $800 DAILY!....some days....OVER $2,000! Her biggest day thus far was $3,400!....in a SINGLE DAY! (17 Real Estate Agents in one office)

OK! OK! I'll fess up! I'll "spill da beans, right here and now"....including a PHOTO of an actual Card!

Hold onto yer hats! What you are about to see is something almost "Magical"!

The "Magic" is in....how I was able to take a woman who was having a "VERY Rough Time after her hubby passed"....from being "half-scared to death of what she was going to do with the rest of HER LIFE!...since her hubby left her with nothing but a wad of bills!....to being IN-dependent.... relying on HERSELF for her INcome!

What she is doing is...offering a Very Special Kind of Business Card. It's a Card that has a Photo of the busimess person on the front and....now HERE'S where the POWER comes in...and WHY business people are willing to PAY HER HANDSOMELY...for HER CARDS!

.......on the Back are "Special Discount Offers" from local restaurants and other businesses (Oil Change, Tire Shop, Florist)!....that can be used over and over again...by the recipient with the PHOTO on the other side of the Card!

The annual Savings with the Special Offers will MORE THAN PAY for the cost of the Card! and...each and every person they give this Card to...will KEEP it....Guaranteed! ...because of the Discounts!

WHALA! YIPPEE KI-YI-YAY!

Background - ...when "Business Cards" were first used they were Small and Handy and contained useful info. Just hand 'em out and recipients could stuff 'em into their shirt pockets or top desk drawer...where they could be easily stored and found for later referrence.

Well...around 1985 or so....companies started offering to put Full Color PHOTOS on the common Business Card. (I know, I bought a Dealership) This changed the whole scenario because recpients of the Cards could now remember what the person looked like, who gave them the Card.

People offering these "Full Color PHOTO" Cards got better exposure....their Cards were kept longer (mainly because people DON'T like to throw "photos" away)....and...these Cards brought them more business!

Now....fast forward to Jan of 2010. I had just finished a VERY successful run of my "Employee Discount Cards". (These are Busuness Cards with Discounts of local businesses which we sold for $10 ea to local business owners (less if they bought in volume)....to give to their employees as Gifts.

One of the people selling my "Employee Discount Cards" asked if she could keep selling the Discount Cards to businesses. Well....because the Christmas "Gift-Giving" season was over, we couldn't use the Cards as a "Gift" item....BUT....I remembered that I had just had a real estate buddy ask me where she could get some "Photo" business cards made....and BLAM! WHAM!....it HIT ME!

WHY DON'T I COMBINE THE REGULAR "PHOTO" BUSINESS CARDS WITH....DISCOUNT CARDS?....placing the Special Discounts on the OTHER SIDE of the Photo Card....so that recipients could take advantage of the discounts?

Yahoo! So....I made up a few samples and gave them to my sales gal...who went out and sold the heck out of these things.....to the tune of an average of $800 A DAY in sales...for the past 10 1/2 months.

She stopped by this morn (she's heading off to her son's home for Turkey-Day") and she wanted to stop by and give me a Special "Thanks" for helping give her a "New Life" and "Hope" for a GREAT YEAR coming up!

So....just from ONE small change in a product....people's lives can change!

She not only gets Initial Orders BUT....RE-ORDERS!

Now....here's the skinny on this;
You go get some restaurants and other businesses (that would like more business by providing Special Offers. Doesn't have to be 15...8 or 10 would do)....then make up a Sample and go Show business people why YOUR Card will be KEPT and REFERRED TO OFTEN....and NOT THROWN AWAY!....because...not only does YOUR Card have a Photo on one side...it also has Special Discount Offers from other businesses on the other side.

So....the recipients of these Cards....KEEP THEM! That's why I named them "KEEPER CARDZ"!

Now....you're probably wondering WHAT TO CHARGE for these little pieces of "Magic" that have changed people's lives and COULD CHANGE YOURS!

We've found the following Prices to work best. Best for us who are selling them and best for those who are paying for a Card that WILL BE KEPT....FOR A LONG TIME!

The Prices are....500 for $189 and 1,000 for $249!

We've found a printer that does a fantastic job for about $35 (including shipping to our door)

And....below is a Photo of one of the Cardz. Make up your own Sample and go get some businesses to agree to honor your Cardz.

You NET over $200 PER JOB! 4 Orders a Day puts $800 in your jeans PLUS...Renewals come in AUTOMATICALLY! WHAT A DEAL!

Here's the Sample;

Attachment 76

Don Alm....enjoy

Awesome post Don! Thanks for the details and the visual sample.

[rolltide]

how much did you pay your salesman per deal?

[caryduke]

Don, did she also need to obtain the businesses for the discounts?

[sikeoseller]

As always, excellent, my friend.

Jeremy, were you able to do anything with this idea when it was presented a few months back?
http://www.offlinegoldforum.com/show...ight=#post6893

[sikeoseller]

I didn't "pay her" anything! She wanted to move to Big Town of Portland to be near children so I "gave her Coaching and OnGoing Training" and did the Graphics and Printing for her. I charged for the Graphics and Printing and she kept the rest.

She "worked her buns off" the first 13 weeks (3 mos)...averaging 20 orders a week (260 orders) After that she starting getting REnewals and slowed down a bit to where she's happy to get 10 New orders a week.

However....with other Sales people...I pay them 40% for 10 a week (2 a day)....on the 11th order I pay them 50% on everything. "Payday" is every Friday for orders turned in the previous Friday.

Don Alm....sales guy

I am not sure I get this whole concept????
contact and sell 15 businesses and have them offer discounts on the back of locals business cards?
How long are they willing to offer the discounts?
How fast are the business owners going to distribute the cards?
Now sales person has to sell x amount of cards after securing 15 discount offers?
Why not just sell the cards minus securing the ads?
Work smart not hard...... is the saying that comes to mind!

[caryduke]

I am not sure I get this whole concept????
contact and sell 15 businesses and have them offer discounts on the back of locals business cards?
How long are they willing to offer the discounts?
How fast are the business owners going to distribute the cards?
Now sales person has to sell x amount of cards after securing 15 discount offers?
Why not just sell the cards minus securing the ads?
Work smart not hard...... is the saying that comes to mind!

I believe the idea behind the discount offers is giving something of value to the purchaser of the card that makes the people who receive the card actually keep it handy ie in their purse or wallet. This keeps the card front and center and the business is top of mind.

The people providing the offers are receiving FREE advertising distributed by the people who buy the business cards. They agree to provide a discount (probably one they already use) for an extended period of time.

Then you sell the cards. The more you sell, the more get distributed and the more everyone benefits.

[Stefon Antonio]

Thank you very much DOn!

[SCC]

Great idea Don!

[Leron Ford]

Don,

I'm new to the forum, but I'm convinced that you are a genius!

Leron

[sikeoseller]

Yup...when you get 8 to 15 sponsors on one side of the Cardz....
1) you can sell them for $10 ea...to individuals or to business owners who'd like to buy a bunch of them and Give them to employees as a Gift....
Or....
2) Sell them for $249 per 1m....to individuals who hand out lots of Cards like Real Estate and Insurance Agents.

Don Alm

So you sell them at a premium for employers to give to their employees ($5-$10 ea) as a "special gift" at the holiday season?
Let me get this right. If I owned an auto dealership in your sales persons town and we could buy 50 cards at $5($250) each to give to our employees as a gift for them to say thanks for the previous years work?

[BigTom]

So you sell them at a premium for employers to give to their employees ($5-$10 ea) as a "special gift" at the holiday season?
Let me get this right. If I owned an auto dealership in your sales persons town and we could buy 50 cards at $5($250) each to give to our employees as a gift for them to say thanks for the previous years work?

2) Sell them for $249 per 1m....to individuals who hand out lots of Cards like Real Estate and Insurance Agents.

......Or you can put auto dealership owner's photo and info on front and sell to him for $249.

[sikeoseller]

......Or you can put auto dealership owner's photo and info on front and sell to him for $249.

right, you can put the dealership on the front for $249.
Isn't going to piss off the folks you sold the "premium" to?
You sold them a "gift" for their employees at $5-$10 a pop! Now you are selling the same thing to every business owner in town.
Sort of steals the perceived value from the employee when he gets the same discount card from some random Realtor he sees while at a local restaurant.
What would you think if your boss gave you a card with discounts on the back as a gift only later to see the same offers show up on the back of every busness card in town?

If this were the case, I know one thing for sure......... The sales woman that sold me the first batch of cards (for $10 a pop as a premium) and I would not do business again!
Sounds like a a great way to burn your turf to me!

One or the other may work, but not both as the original poster suggests!

[BrianNC]

I'm sorry but....you have gotten this program "confused". You are mixing the selling of the Card for $10 EACH with the selling of 1,000 Cards to Individuals for $249 with...using the Cards at an Auto Dealership. These are completely different programs and....I am sorry....I do not have the time now.... to "explain" it to you.

I simply "tossed" this out here for you to "Take A Look At"....NOT to provide a "Course" or a "Consultation" or provide ALL the Details. You have mixed "Apples with Oranges and Bananas".

Don Alm

I was wondering about that myself. The way you came back in a posted about selling the cards individually was kind of confusing. It made it look like you were combining the two which I couldn't figure out. Glad you clarified.

[sikeoseller]

I'm sorry but....you have gotten this program "confused". You are mixing the selling of the Card for $10 EACH with the selling of 1,000 Cards to Individuals for $249 with...using the Cards at an Auto Dealership. These are completely different programs and....I am sorry....I do not have the time now.... to "explain" it to you.

I simply "tossed" this out here for you to "Take A Look At"....NOT to provide a "Course" or a "Consultation" or provide ALL the Details. You have mixed "Apples with Oranges and Bananas".

Don Alm

I don't think I am confused at all. 260 orders of 1000 in a town of 26k (for simple math) is 10 "discount cards" for every man, woman & child!
Sort of lose their "value" at that point don't they?
Sorry you said you were going to "spill the beans" Just don't see the value here, Sorry.
I'm sorry for raising legitimate concerns on this "idea"
Carry on with your stories, they are fun to read
No Hard Feelings!

[MrPhelps]

I don't think I am confused at all. 260 orders of 1000 in a town of 26k (for simple math) is 10 "discount cards" for every man, woman & child!
Sort of lose their "value" at that point don't they?
Sorry you said you were going to "spill the beans" Just don't see the value here, Sorry.
I'm sorry for raising legitimate concerns on this "idea"
Carry on with your stories, they are fun to read
No Hard Feelings!

Don reminds me of the TV show, "Who's Line Is It Anyway?" He throws out these ideas to us, and to employ them, we need to improvise.

Some people can do that easily. Most folks can't.

You ARE confused about what he said. If you can't see it, don't get into improv.

(And don't try applying both of these ideas together in the same small town. They weren't presented as something to do TOGETHER. They were presented as something like, "You can use round steak to make chili, or grind it up and make hamburgers." It's about what you can MAKE, not what someone is going to buy.)

-David

[sikeoseller]

Don reminds me of the TV show, "Who's Line Is It Anyway?" He throws out these ideas to us, and to employ them, we need to improvise.

Some people can do that easily. Most folks can't.

You ARE confused about what he said. If you can't see it, don't get into improv.

(And don't try applying both of these ideas together in the same small town. They weren't presented as something to do TOGETHER. They were presented as something like, "You can use round steak to make chili, or grind it up and make hamburgers." It's about what you can MAKE, not what someone is going to buy.)

-David

........ Says the guy who can't imagine what 6 photos look like on a card......
http://www.offlinegoldforum.com/show...=6795#post6795
And I AM confused???
I am not confused at all.
I get it 100%
Visit a forum, (rent free)tell a bunch of stories of your success to get the newbies to click your link at the bottom and purchase your report!

How that for improv?

[BrianNC]

........ Says the guy who can't imagine what 6 photos look like on a card......
http://www.offlinegoldforum.com/show...=6795#post6795
And I AM confused???
I am not confused at all.
I get it 100%
Visit a forum, (rent free)tell a bunch of stories of your success to get the newbies to click your link at the bottom and purchase your report!

How that for improv?

LOL. Good post.

[kf4qhk]

I am very grateful to Don for all of the free stuff he has given away.

[stan1111]

another good one Don especially for restaurants where I want to go

[adriaan]

Hi there

First of all ... Don, I read almost all your posts, and they're all excellent! Thank you for all the ideas, and possibilities.

Secondly, I want to portray how I interpret Don's idea.

You should approach insurance salesmen, realtors/estate agents and other individuals/agents/salesmen that need their business-cards distributed at every opportune moment. They will be your clients.

Now, your client's clients (people who buy insurance policies, property etc) must be interested in the specials being advertised on the back of your client's business-card. Examples are (pizzas: buy one, get one free; 10% off your next car service).
So, the realtor/estate agent hands out his business-card, with his photo and details on one side, and "Specials" on the other side. The people he hands these cards to, will now keep this card, because of the specials. (The client gets better "reach and stickiness" with his business-cards, and his client gets a few specials.) And, the advertiser of the Specials gets extra business. I suppose the Specials advertiser might want to "expire" the Special after the first time it's used, but then again, he can just keep on giving away these specials to the same customer, on presentation of the card of course. It means extra sales, and happy repeat customers.

You make money by selling these business-cards to these insurance guys and estate agents.
(You might even get the advertiser of the Specials, to pay for this marketing opportunity)

The client pays you "500 for $189 and 1,000 for $249!" as Don says, and the Specials advertiser might pay you $ 100.00 for 1 000 impressions.

Now work this into your arsenal of "local marketing weapons".

[sikeoseller]

I also sell biz cards from an idea I read on Dons posts years ago.
I also sell magnets @$240/1000
Cards are $120/1000

Magnet cost is $150
Card cost is $45 for 2 sided cards.

If they buy magnets, I will throw in the cards for $75.

Not getting rich, but it sure is nice to collect $80 for a 20 minutes of so of design work.
My only line is to walk an and ask if I can give them a few of my magnets?
Ask them to stick it on their fridge at home and count the times they see it in a day.
I will call them in a week and ask how many times they saw it in a day?
Lets say they say 7, now I ask them to multiply that # by a thousand and ask what they get.
7k in this instance.
I then tell them they can purchase 7000 impressions per day every day of the year for a one time fee of $240.


Not exact pitch but you can come up with your own!

Here is a sample:
Yes it is my ugly mug! : )

magcardsamp.jpg
Havn't sold a ton but enough to continue the project as it opens up doors to continue our business relationship

[Stefon Antonio]

Dang dude. You really should lay off of Don. He shares his knowledge and wisdom and helps people to get on their feet and then you come and destroy it. Why? Give it a rest, for good. Soon this nation is gonna collapse and you might be some rich guy that could care less, but for the sake of karma, give it a rest.

And to add.. I was right in the middle of a new project that came from his ideas. Now that it's no longer posted and available, I have to start on something else. When you harass him, he withdraws a million worth of information, and that messes with everyone's lives, and I speak for those who make a living from his ideas, including myself. I'm just asking that you let go of whatever spite you have in your heart and contribute positively. I respect reasonable skepticism, but sometimes, it goes too far.

Just some kind words from a brother in deed..

[BrianNC]

Looks like Don has deleted every post of his from the forum because Dexx didn't ban him.

[Stefon Antonio]

You're right. That's what compelled me to reach out to our friend sikeoseller on a personal note. Honestly, this just kinda ruined my day as I was so pumped to go out and 'DOn ALm' it today. [On the otherhand, maybe it's time for Don's own private forum.]

[Vikuna2009+]

You're right. That's what compelled me to reach out to our friend sikeoseller on a personal note. Honestly, this just kinda ruined my day as I was so pumped to go out and 'DOn ALm' it today. [On the otherhand, maybe it's time for Don's own private forum.]

For those of you who have saved their "Don Alm" stuff to their favorites, let's create a thread with anything Don Alm or something. Feel free to PM if I got some info re Don's posts, you shouldn't have to suffer because of it. On the other hand, extremes are extremes and what's going on right now is EXTREME, Eva

[cherry80]

You gotta be kidding me!

Thanks sikeoseller, you are a real piece.

[sikeoseller]

Dang dude. You really should lay off of Don. He shares his knowledge and wisdom and helps people to get on their feet and then you come and destroy it. Why? Give it a rest, for good. Soon this nation is gonna collapse and you might be some rich guy that could care less, but for the sake of karma, give it a rest.

And to add.. I was right in the middle of a new project that came from his ideas. Now that it's no longer posted and available, I have to start on something else. When you harass him, he withdraws a million worth of information, and that messes with everyone's lives, and I speak for those who make a living from his ideas, including myself. I'm just asking that you let go of whatever spite you have in your heart and contribute positively. I respect reasonable skepticism, but sometimes, it goes too far.

Just some kind words from a brother in deed..

You were right in the middle of a project and now you forgot what you had read? I am having a difficult time understanding what you are complaining about.

I didn't ask the thick skinned professional salesman who takes rejection every day to throw a fit by the rejection he was offered here. Everyone I sell with knows how to accept rejection and push forward rather that burn the turf by acting like a Big Old baby. If you don't like the outcome, just go to the next joint! How many of you went into a store and the owner didn't do what you wanted and began "ripping things from the walls"
To me, this is less than professional conduct!
Maybe don is trying to renegociate his "free" rent terms with Dexx, who knows??????

I don't dislike Don, I truly enjoy reading his stories as well!
My favorite story he told was how he played football for Ara Parseghian at Northwestern.
Man, I sure wish he would tell that tale again

One helpful note might be that you know how to contact him via email to get further instruction if you so desire.
Once you "buddy up" he might spend hours and hours on the telephone with you to get your program running.
like he did on the forum
His email is donalm@charter.net if you want to try
If that doesn't work, you could always contact him through the forum as he is still a member
No hard feeling and continued success,
Sike-o

[echoNM]

Everybody has to take responsibility for their actions, including Don. Now, maybe there is history between him and sikeo, I don't know, but what I saw was a post from sikeo that pointed out a concern regarding the legalitiy of running a contest. In that post there wasn't anything personal against Don.

And Don flipped out. He really flipped out. Are you telling me that a post someone makes in a forum is responsible for the way Don reacted or is Don responsible for his actions? He could have responded any number of ways... or not at all. But he picked the response where he flipped out, collected all of his toys and went home.

Now, could sikeo have worded things better? Sure, maybe. Could he have been a little more sensitive? Sure, maybe. But his post doesn't appear to have broken the rules of the forum. And in the end that's where the judgment needs to lie.

If sikeo does hold spite against Don, then personally, I do believe he should let it go and work to be respectful of other members of our community. But it really doesn't matter what I think, all that matters is that his posts follow the rules of the forum. And we are all responsible for our own reactions to that post.

Dang dude. You really should lay off of Don. He shares his knowledge and wisdom and helps people to get on their feet and then you come and destroy it. Why? Give it a rest, for good. Soon this nation is gonna collapse and you might be some rich guy that could care less, but for the sake of karma, give it a rest.

And to add.. I was right in the middle of a new project that came from his ideas. Now that it's no longer posted and available, I have to start on something else. When you harass him, he withdraws a million worth of information, and that messes with everyone's lives, and I speak for those who make a living from his ideas, including myself. I'm just asking that you let go of whatever spite you have in your heart and contribute positively. I respect reasonable skepticism, but sometimes, it goes too far.

Just some kind words from a brother in deed..

[caryduke]

I won't pretend I know what Don's beef with sikeoseller is.

I do know for a fact that Don has a history of flying off the handle and attacking people for their opinion when commenting on "his" ideas. He personally attacked my several times with his sarcastic and negative attitude. In addition, he rarely provided any depth to his ideas even when asked pointedly for assistance.

Don has been kicked off or quit at least 3 forums that I'm aware for similar behavior dating back to 2005. It's his pattern.

I do owe Don credit for sharing "his" ideas with us on this forum. I will miss his input, however limited it actually was in the implementation of said idea(s).

For those willing to work together to push ahead and to profit with these ideas, you know I am more than willing to share if you have read any of my posts. Let's work together to flesh the ideas out to a profitable income.

[Stefon Antonio]

Okay everyone has a very valid point. However, my main point is that if a fellow marketer asks you to back off, then kindly respect it. There has been turmoil that far surpasses "one post" as some refer to. And, I'm not sure if brother Sike-o is the same guy that's harassed Don on 3 other forums, but I really didn't see it necessary to continue that activity, and bring it here too. (I saw it on the other forums too)
I hope we all understand. And even more, I think that each one of you is PURE GENIUS! Each one of you, especially from these ideas that continue to pop up. Anyhow, we're all on the same team, we're all family. We're all dedicated to the same movement. And I was in the middle of a project but can't remember what it was that I left out, left off, etc. because now, all of em are gone. I can understand that move, cause I would probably do the same. Anyway, Sike-O, nice card magnet mock-up! Now, let's get this money brother!

[KabirC]

I saved a few good threads of his knowing he would do this. He was never the nicest of guys nor was he the guy that was willing to help out answering questions. If anyone wants the thread about $20,000 Residual and the one about kf4qhk's unbelievable offer just PM me and I can send it to you. Does anyone else have threads saved?

[Vikuna2009+]

I saved a few good threads of his knowing he would do this. He was never the nicest of guys nor was he the guy that was willing to help out answering questions. If anyone wants the thread about $20,000 Residual and the one about kf4qhk's unbelievable offer just PM me and I can send it to you. Does anyone else have threads saved?

I got 23 of them, just don't know how to PM them to you. Give me instructions and I will type up a list of what I got, Eva

[Sebulba]

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THIS is for "SikeoSeller"!

What has happened to all of Dom Alms Post?

Seb

[KabirC]

What has happened to all of Dom Alms Post?

Seb

He got all butthurt and deleted everything...figures he would knowing his character.

[nctom]

Has anyone been able to compile Don's posts to share ?

[Sebulba]

He got all butthurt and deleted everything...figures he would knowing his character.

I would be interested in this too

Seb

[ihiustler]

awesome card!

[nilsbill]

Thanks for the info Don, I don't care what others say.

[AmandaParker]

I would like Dom Alms Posts but I can't PM yet. If you have his posts can you please PM me or email them to me at amandamthomasson(at)yahoo(dot)com
Thanks everyone.

[Dean]

Sounds interesting... but I need at least one post to see the image :-)

[Peter Avey]

wheres the post?

[Brandon]

Hi, new here. Glad to find such discussion forum. I need to post here to view the attachment. And I seen this forum has hidden post isn't?

[terrysteffen]

Just posting to see the attachments, too. Always enjoyed reading Don's posts....Will miss them.

[Dmarketing]

same here....enjoyed the thread

[transam7410]

What a great idea. I'm going to try and implement this with my dad's local business. Tanks so much for posting this